Jesse, that cock was largely the Hyderbadi strain I mentioned from larry Lingerfelt. He is an excellent bird and beautifully laced. he is in safe keping, he was too big for dave! There is no point in calling these birds hyderbadis anymore, unless we think of color more than a type represents a strain. We have these butterscotch or palimino colors coming from the line bred pumpkins, some show more gold in the saddles, sometimes the hens are almost white. So I call these the Golden Pakistani's.. as opposed to the pumpkin pakistanis or the classic br reds.. It's all the same bloodlines. all things being equal it's nice to have eye candy AND the bottom line..