Ok hi everyone on AC. Me and a buddy was just talking about the lines we got and how the hens genetics affect her offspring. Me personally when it was legal I would test my hens against each other to see which is worth keeping. My buddy once said that it doesnt matter if hens fight good or not it all depends if they can produce ace. In my mind I'm thinking how can a hen produce ace if she not ace herself. As years gone by he now breeds like me keeping only the best hen to breed and culling the rest. And I also see and hear from different people about this debate.some swear that hens abilities dont matter as ling as she from good line and others will beg to differ. I'm not sure if this topic came up already or not but here's a new one. Lets hear your thoughts.
if your breeders are from the same or closely related bloodline and it is a established bloodline then it's genetics that are "locked in" and so you have a better idea what to expect. for out crosses, when you the breeders are from different bloodlines, or are crosses of random bloodlines...then it gets more tricky. even if one or both are good performers, it doesn't guarantee good offsprings..
to save time, the wise breeders know it's better to know which hen is a proven producer, or which cock is a proven producer..whether they are good performers or not. there are birds that can produce better than they perform...the problem is, not everyone has the patience to wait and conclude the results. it takes at least 2 years to determine a proven producer...
then there's also those birds that will only produce well with certain mates with certain traits. and then the random breedings, where either the breeders click or not. but IMO, there's usually at least one good one out of every batch.you can't always expect every stag to become aces...
this is my experience from the legal days and may be outdated...but just my thoughts. recently I did a repeat breeding of one hen, using a completely random bloodline brood cock a friend has loan to me....second batch was completely different from first batch...so first batch might resemble the parents more, but second might resemble the ancestors down the line somewhere more...so it's pretty much a toss up and luck of the draw when breeding random bloodlines you have little info on..but usually the legendary birds in the past was a result from random breedings...and none that I know of were belonging to a particular bloodline.
With my experience and what has worked for me its the hen all the way . If the cock is no runner and you add a killer hen with a hood pedigree youll get fire . Thats why i dont sell hens nor pullets to local people
Many of us have had the experience of breeding a good rooster to only have his offspring be less than him in preformance. This would also apply to the hen. Just because she fights well, does not mean she will pass it on to her offspring. All you can do is breed hens with good fighting ancestors and wait and see what comes out.
Only exception is a pure bred strain which most of us don't use.
"the time will come, that who killeth you will think that he does God service." John 16:2
My friends a good hen is probably the most inportant factor in any breeding program.Lets describe a good hen.I prefer a pure hen,so she can be dominated in reproducing her offspring.That she is also deep game,from a good family that is proven as pretty good at shows, of holding their onwned as pure fowl.But the most inportant that she carries good mitochondria DNA. Most
Of the mitochondrias are past down to both male and female,but the males inherets,but cannot past it to his offspring. Mitochondria Dna controls most athelectics abilities. Indurance, and balance.
I am in favor of using an excellent hen, because she transmits a 70% -80% to her male offspring! Instead I have heard from some breeders tell that the cock transmits its genes to the daughters! And that's why a great cock almost never produces excellent sons! but it can produce excellent daughters! In all this I would like to add that I am a lover of consanguinity, and I prefer to use good hens of my line!